Monday 21 February 2011

The proof (19/02/2011).

For many years various South African and international extremist right winged groups have held as the centre piece of their world view the idea that their is a white persecution happening in the Post Apartheid South Africa. Some groups going to far as to suggest genocide.

The entire premise behind this persecution was based on a single piece of evidence.

The list.

The list is a so called list of over 3000 white farmers names who have been murdered since 1994. In the following few blogs as you will observe I will entirely take apart the list piece by piece with some basic research into its validity. But before I do so let me explain why I go to such efforts and offer some apologies to anyone whose lost loved ones might get caught up in this ugly saga.

It is not my intention to sweep over the tragedy and trauma of the very real crime situation in South Africa. At the the same time I do no longer want to sit idly by and watch as this list swallows in more and more unwitting minds and poisons them into race based hatred. I take comfort in knowing if the names of my dead loved ones were being used for such a ugly and divisive purpose I would not appreciate it.

So who wrote this list ?

Adriana Striujt. A retired South African journalist living in the Netherlands.

I am of the opinion that she knowingly has set out to mislead and has deliberately posted individuals she clearly knows not to be farmers, or as you will see, to not even be dead on her list. As this blog moves along we will move into looking into the motives of her list and how people from both sides have been duped and for what sinister purpose.

But let's not get ahead of ourselves. First the evidence.


Question 1: Are there even 3000 names on the list ?


Like almost everything on the list it relies upon the same one trick. IE : You won't read it or question it. It assumes you have a media fueled confirmation bias that won't make you skeptical of it.

The list claims there are 3,786 names on it.



Short of counting them I inserted the list into microsoft word and numbered the bullets and checked to see it wasn't missing anything. I was very careful in this process.


The result ?


1165.




Question 2 : Are all the people on the list even dead ?
So remembering it's a list of under 1200 people, are these people even all murdered ?

The short answer is no.

I started off by looking at the tourist the list claims have been murdered because I know how rare tourist murders are in S.A and had never heard of these. Strange considering all the research I have done into the matter, so it was out of the gates very suspicious. Firstly it should be obvious that tourists are not white South Africans farmers. But when you look further. They're not even dead.

Take these three folks who appear on the list.

BARBIERI RITA (TOURIST ITALY)


BLAIR ANDREW (LONDON TOURIST)BLAIR JOCELYN ( LONDON TOURIST)


So here we haven't even alphabetically gotten past B and this should be going off in your head.


Meet the two Marcs.





Marc Conbrinck and Marc Waldon are both listed as murdered. The location : table bay in 2007.

Truth ?

Not even close. They were involved and injured in a "road rage" incident by a guy named Alberto Saunders. Not only did this not happen on a farm , they weren't killed and no black person had anything to do with it.

This was genuinely the first random search I did after the tourists and it's not even true. Wow. Couldn't she even find actual murdered white people to make up list of under 1200 ? I mean even if they were at least dead then she could still somehow validate including them on the list even though they aren't farmers. The problem of violent crime affecting whites must be way less serious than even I thought !

http://forums.vault9.net/lofiversion/index.php?t7540.html

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Road-rage-accused-very-nice-20030711

Wow, just wow !

Ask yourselves people, why is this woman lying ?

Question 3 : Is this a list of white people ?

Remember it's a list of less than 1200 people, many of whom are not even murdered or dead. Is the list of white people ?

Again, no.

Before I even get to C.

ABRAHAMS MARIAM AND ISMAEL 20010208 ASIAN FARMERS killed on farm Groot Drakensteyn, Boland, WC

BAINSVLEI FARM 4 FARM WORKERS KILLED BY TSWANA MEN WHO CARVED 'ANC' ON FARM WORKERS' BACK: 2010

Question 4 : Is this a list of farmers ?

So far three things are resoundingly clear. The list has less than 1200 names, they were 100% not all murdered, and it's not made up of only white people. This is matter of absolute unquestionable fact.

So are they at least farmers ?

Again, a resounding straight forward, no nonsense, no tricks, NO.

Before I even get half way through B,. we find these people who are not farmers.

ACKERMAN JOEY F 88 2006\1 PORT ELIZABETH EC
ALBERTYN HENK 44 M 20081117 Donkerhoek smallholding Pretoria Loot: 1 pistol
ALBORGHETTI MARCO M 2006\11 2010- BROOKLYN PRETORIA
BARNARD CARLI F 9 MNDE 2006\11 VANDERBIJLPARK http://www.100megspop2.com/crimebusters/FarmVictims.htmlBARNARD RENA F 2006\11 VANDERBIJLPARKBEACON CLIFFORT F 40 2006\05 GORDONSBAAI WC http://www.100megspop2.com/crimebusters/FarmVictims.html
BEACON CLIFFORT VRIENDIN M 26 2006\05 GORDONSBAAI WCBeck, Heinrich, 43, 20101007 Crocodile River Mine boilermaker, shot dead Ifafi smh HartbeespoortBEETON MICHEAL M 37 2000\12 DURBAN KZN http://www.100megspop2.com/crimebusters/FarmVictims.html
BEGG ANNE F 57 1998\01 SUNRISE-ON-SEA FARM EAST LONDON http://www.100megspop2.com/crimebusters/FarmVictims.htm
lBEKKER DANIEL M 80 2005\03 BLOEMFONTEIN FS http://www.100megspop2.com/crimebusters/FarmVictims.html
BEKKER FANIE M 2007\02 CAPETOWN CPT http://www.100megspop2.com/crimebusters/FarmVictims.html
BEKKER MARIA F 77 2005\03 BLOEMFONTEIN FS http://www.100megspop2.com/crimebusters/FarmVictims.htm
lBERGH ADRIAAN M 200304 WATERKLOOF PRETORIA GA http://www.100megspop2.com/crimebusters/FarmVictims.html
BERGH MARCEL F 22 2003\04 WATERKLOOF PRETORIA GA http://www.100megspop2.com/crimebusters/FarmVictims.html
BERGH MICHELLE F 2003\04 WATERKLOOF PRETORIA
GABESTER NATALIA F 21 2001\10 NELSPRUIT LIM http://www.100megspop2.com/crimebusters/FarmVictims.html
BESTER NICOLE F 10 2002\05 PRETORIA GA http://www.100megspop2.com/crimebusters/FarmVictims.html
BEUKES HELGA F 2000\01 PRETORIA
GABLAIR ANDREW (LONDON TOURIST) M 2007\02 UMHLANGA DURBAN KZN http://www.100megspop2.com/crimebusters/FarmVictims.html
BLAKE MARC M 1994\05 SUNNYSIDE PRETORIA GA http://www.100megspop2.com/crimebusters/FarmVictims.htmlB
LEWITT PAT F 2006\10 WALMERPARK PORT ELIZABETH EC

I will stop there because I used to live in the suburb of Walmer in P.E. This can not even remotely in the most liberal sense be described as a farming area. Not even a "peri urban" area. The same goes for the others I have listed.

LIAR.

So around about this time you are probably wondering why has she made up this pack of lies ? We're not quite done exposing them all yet, but rest assured we will move onto that question.
Question 5 : Does the list only go back to 1994 ?

Again a big fat no.

It's a list from 1987-2011. A fact she used to include on her page but it conveniently disappeared. Now she claims it's from 1994 without ever adjusting the numbers. Here is a copy of that list which is identical to the one she claims is not from 1994. Note it states it is since 1987.

http://censorbugbear-reports.blogspot.com/2010/04/eugene-terreblanche-farm-murder-victim.html#

Consider on the NEW list we have :

PRINSLOO, first name unknown, 1987 or 1988 FARM LEMOENKLOOF SENEKAL 1987/88

As well as many others. AGAIN JUST READ IT !!!

24 comments:

  1. If you want to increase your rankings Mr Rooster, it would be a good idea to allow anonymous comments on this blog. Not all surfers are registered with Google, Wordpress, etc.

    My response to this posting:

    Is the Genocide of Boer Farmers a Myth?

    You're most welcome to submit your defence when and wherever you want, but personally I think you owe Adriana Striujt an apology. It is her REAL NAME you have defamed. Her contact details are on her website.

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  2. I welcome any attempt to try discredit my argument. You did a very, veyr bad job basically admitting everything I alluded to was true.

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  3. I will be emailing you an official response. Be sure of that. If I'm wrong about anything I will change that. Unlike Adriana who even after reading this still includes the names of people who are not dead, not white, not farmers and before 1994 on her list.

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  4. She's a fucking liar and I have no tolerance for divisive agendas. Let me lay it out for you : I'm an libetarian neo anarchist. I hate politicians and anyone sociopaths who try and manipulate anyone with "politik", scaremongering , alarmism and snake oil. Everyday this list poisens people's minds and poloarises people into race hate Adriana smiles a broad smile. Fuck her. She will get no apology from me. Bitch.

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  5. @ Rooster take care your choice of words shows your Breeding, Debate by all means but choose your words well....

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  6. We're not children. You should be reading nothing into my swearing other the to show my digust. In hindsight my words were a bit harsh and I'll try refrain from such petty behaviour.

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  7. Rooster try checking your spelling before posting, you come across as being uneducated.

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  8. You are a child Rooster.. You are also a cunt!

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  9. 1)You are obviously a white(boer) hating racist.
    2)You are obviously illiterate and don't know how the white man's thing, the computer works!
    3)"Boer" is a term used to describe white people in general by people of this country.
    4)Try counting people by name on Adriana Striujt's site. (Illiteracy shining through)
    5)All of the write up's are murders or attempted murders, dumb fuck!

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  10. 1)You are obviously a white(boer) hating racist.
    2)You are obviously illiterate and don't know how the white man's thing, the computer works!
    3)"Boer" is a term used to describe white people in general by people of this country.
    4)Try counting people by name on Adriana Striujt's site. (Illiteracy shining through)
    5)All of the write up's are murders or attempted murders, dumb fuck!



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    All these names. And you know why nobody has questioned the methods I used to count the names ? When you count them you get even less ! More on this later.

    And she doesn't defind boer like that, no, not at all. Also she claims right on the top of her list it is of "white farmers/peri urban dwellers."

    So apparently the list "of over 37 000 white murdered farmers" everyone is getting worked up is a list of 1200 people white people (some blacks , mostly not farmers, and now it's also about attempted murders ? Wow serious backpedaling going on here.

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  11. Correction she claime it's "3700 white farmers".

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  12. Dear Mr Rooster, I would greatly appreciate it if you could stop spamming my blog. I have requested Adriana Stuijt via Nol_Stuijt@hotmail.com to rectify the errors on her list. She responded by saying that the list in question is outdated, and that it has been hacked on numerous occasions. She also provided links to other lists that are complete and correct.

    I am not Adriana’s moderator in this regard, so don’t expect me to keep checking up whether she has complied to my request, or not.

    I am not a fulltime blogger, and have to work for a living – often till 3 in the morning to get things done. So please take up your issues directly with Adriana.

    Thank you

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  13. Spamming your blog ? You post calling me a liar. I post back with proof to show how I haven't lied and you censor it ? I can only assume you are a woman because you have no sense of fair play.

    And if Adriana is to honestly correct her list she first needs to admit there are less than 1200 names on it, that it's made u mostly of people who aren't farmers, many are not white, some are before 1987, and some are not even dead !

    I doubt Adriana has any intention of doing the first damn honest thing.

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  14. Hacked ? Crap man. Why would anyone hack the list to add names or change the supposive claimed numbers ? Utter crap !

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  15. Auctioneer, I would have posted your post if it did not contain two lies. Confessed killers do not just walk the streets and "many tourists" have not been murdered in South Africa. This is a place to dispute propoganda not spew more.

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  16. you are a cunt Rooster

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  17. Blacks have long since learned how to manipulate the white man by exploiting his compassionate nature and his sense of fair play, whilst having absolutely no intention of practicing the same virtues in return.

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  18. "As this blog moves along we wll move into looking into the motives of her list and how people from both sides have been duped and for what sinister purpose."

    what are the motives?

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  19. Still no motives?

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  20. I will be updating this blog in the coming week.

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  21. Hi. I have many aspects going on in my life. I never replied with her motive because I can't 100% be sure I'm correct. Unlike some people I won't post anything I don't know or strongly believe to be true. My suspicions were that she was a volkstater and under the kooky belief that (this exists) she was part of the chosen people of god (related to, but only in their imagination, as a sect of judaism). I have many sources to back both up, but I can no longer be sure of the validity of the sources.

    One thing that I am sure of is that this list is a perfectly willing and deliberate attempt to mislead and divide people. I remain steadfastly 100% confident of that and absolutely entirely sure that the list is full of knowing lies.

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  22. I'm pleased to see it is finally being recognised in a real sense that her list is a pack of lies. A few right winged sites are still desperately posting it, but more and more with disclaimers. I take FULL credit for this shift of perception and modus operandi. Adriana, I fucked your lies up properly.

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  23. Jy is dieselfde as a poes aan 'n muil. Geen nut vir mens of dier!

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  24. WATCH THE LEGEND!
    Daniele Filippin, was the first man to do an exhaustive study about demographic change of Argentina, observing in depth every region and district, since the colonial period until today.
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Daniele-Filippin/522808421094711

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